>I bet ya BT already had them ReCycled, so >that they can all be sample accurate. Too bad we don't get them like that >upon purchase... :-( Ned, When BT talked about "fixing" the audio, is he talking about recycling and then quantizing or is he talking about doing strip silence in Logic and then quantizing/moving regions around (I know, similar...). It sounds like he is using Logic's audio editor???? Here's an excerpt from his page: "he used Logic Audio's built-in audio editor to perform surgery on the drum patterns. He tweaked every peak, such as the kick and clap transients, to play exactly on the beat, thus making the loops sample accurate-a process that involved some time stretching (the process of speeding up or slowing down a sound without altering its pitch) and cutting of segments surrounding the waveform peaks. " Anyway, any ideas?

Aron, aron wrote: > "he used Logic Audio's built-in audio editor to perform surgery on the drum > patterns... Well, that would seem to answer that question... except that if you read the notes in the booklet, you'll find this: Programs and equipment used: KYMA, Logic Audio[...] Acid, Reason, ReCycle... [etc]. I, for one, would not use Logic's built-in editor alone for this kind of work, if only because it only has one level of undo, and edits performed there are destructive. Anyhow, regardless of how BT did it, you too can work your loops to perfection... if you have the discipline! Ned http://www.nedfx.com Ned Bouhalassa n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

At 10:45 AM 6/27/2003, you wrote: >I, for one, would not use Logic's built-in editor alone for this kind of >work, if only because it only has one level of undo, and edits performed >there are destructive. I guess that was my point. Working in that edit window is painful! I don't see how he does it. The only thing I can imagine is that he recycles, then edits each region start time. That's the only think I can imagine! Now where does he find the time to do all of those things he does! Aron

>VSL + EXS24 + G5 2Ghz 8 GB that is the question ! The answer is: Oh Yeah!!!!! Performance should improve dramatically. More RAM (8Gb) means lots more VSL instruments, if everything can be optimised properly. It will take some time before this happens though... Regards - Colin

On 28/06/03 1:03, "Colin Shapiro" <musos@...> wrote: >> >VSL + EXS24 + G5 2Ghz 8 GB that is the question ! > > The answer is: Oh Yeah!!!!! > Performance should improve dramatically. More RAM (8Gb) means lots > more VSL instruments, if everything can be optimised properly. > > It will take some time before this happens though... > No, it¹s all before or for Apple Expo Paris ;o)))) The problem is do we will still need a Gigasampler PC to handle a full orchestra ? Best regards Cyril Blanc France If you want to be sure I read your answer leave my name in it ! Spam mails are directly going to trash

What's the difference between the audio and akai versions of this? Since they are just loops, why would the mapping make much of a difference, ie: a 100 dollar difference? thx, Mike

Mike Auty wrote: > What's the difference between the audio and akai versions of this? > Since they are just loops, why would the mapping make much of a > difference, ie: a 100 dollar difference? I was wondering the same thing?? -- Eli Krantzberg Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

on 6/28/03 2:33 PM, Eli Krantzberg at elik@... wrote: Mike Auty wrote: > What's the difference between the audio and akai versions of this? > Since they are just loops, why would the mapping make much of a > difference, ie: a 100 dollar difference? I was wondering the same thing?? I would guess it's to do with "groove control." Probably the Akai version has each beat mapped to a key. You then import the sequence for that groove into the sequencer, and when you play it back on the Akai channel, the groove plays correctly at the speed of your sequencer - any speed within reason. Something like Recycle. Actually, exactly like Recycle. The extra $100 is probably for the effort to break all the grooves out into a Recycle or Groove Control format. James

>On 28/06/03 1:03, "Colin Shapiro" <musos@...> wrote: > >>> >VSL + EXS24 + G5 2Ghz 8 GB that is the question ! >> >> The answer is: Oh Yeah!!!!! >> Performance should improve dramatically. More RAM (8Gb) means lots >> more VSL instruments, if everything can be optimised properly. >> >> It will take some time before this happens though... >> > No, it¹s all before or for Apple Expo Paris ;o)))) From: Cyril Blanc <blanc.cyril@...> > The problem is do we will still need a Gigasampler PC to handle a full >orchestra ? In other words, how many machines will one 8GB Mac replace. Right now, one Giga PC and one dual gig Quicksilver (both with 1.5GB of RAM) load essentially the same amount of VSL. I'm getting 180 stereo voices off a Firewire drive on the Mac, and the PC gets the Giga max 160 mono voices. You'll be able to load more programs into 8GB of RAM, but you'll still need to run the voices off multiple drives and busses. And then the question is whether it's still cheaper to buy Giga PCs than to buy all that RAM! So the answer to Cyril's question is that we'll have to wait and see. -- Nick Batzdorf 818/905-9101, cell 590-9101, fax 905-5434

Sorry to dissapoint you James (and others), but no, the AKAI version of Beatz certainly does not have a sliced-up version of the beats. AFAIK, the audio and AKAI are the same, only the AKAI is mapped out. Someone with the hande Ed has asked this very same question to Doug Rogers (head of East-West) on the East-West Forum of the excellent Northern Sounds sample discussion web site. You can follow the thread here: http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f$;t0 251 BTW, Groove Control is only used in Spectrasonics products, like BackBeat, Retro-Funk and Stylus... Ned James Ryan wrote: > I would guess it's to do with "groove control." Probably the Akai version > has each beat mapped to a key. You then import the sequence for that groove > into the sequencer, and when you play it back on the Akai channel, the > groove plays correctly at the speed of your sequencer - any speed within > reason. Something like Recycle. Actually, exactly like Recycle. The extra > $100 is probably for the effort to break all the grooves out into a Recycle > or Groove Control format. http://www.nedfx.com Ned Bouhalassa n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

hi all, i discovered that a sample from my original exs sample library called HHLoopz has gone missing. i know i had it cuz a tune was originally built around it. but not found on any of my drives... does anyone know where to secure this? or a reload of the original complete exs library? when i look at the list of patches that were to be included, mine own directory seems incomplete, and i'm missing my original disc. thanks, todd

Check out the sneak preview of SAM Trumpets - lovely, and perfect for those 21st Century slo-mo fight scenes...: http://www.projectsam.com/ Ned http://www.nedfx.com Ned Bouhalassa n e d @ n e d f x . c o m

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I've just upgraded to LAP 6.1 and all my sampler instruments are in my Logic 5 folder. Now I've put an alias to the Logic 5 location in the folder of the same name in Logic 6 folder, but really I want to move the sampler instruments folder over to the Logic 6 folder completely, but I'm afraid that next time I open up a song my EXS plugin will be empty because the songs all reference the Logic 5 folder. What do I do? John

On 28/06/03 18:52, "Nick Batzdorf" <recording@...> wrote: >> >On 28/06/03 1:03, "Colin Shapiro" <musos@...> wrote: >> > >>>>> >>> >VSL + EXS24 + G5 2Ghz 8 GB that is the question ! >>> >> >>> >> The answer is: Oh Yeah!!!!! >>> >> Performance should improve dramatically. More RAM (8Gb) means lots >>> >> more VSL instruments, if everything can be optimised properly. >>> >> >>> >> It will take some time before this happens though... >>> >> >> > No, it¹s all before or for Apple Expo Paris ;o)))) > > From: Cyril Blanc <blanc.cyril@...> > >> > The problem is do we will still need a Gigasampler PC to handle a full >> >orchestra ? > > In other words, how many machines will one 8GB Mac replace. > > Right now, one Giga PC and one dual gig Quicksilver (both with 1.5GB > of RAM) load essentially the same amount of VSL. I'm getting 180 > stereo voices off a Firewire drive on the Mac, and the PC gets the > Giga max 160 mono voices. > > You'll be able to load more programs into 8GB of RAM, but you'll > still need to run the voices off multiple drives and busses. And then > the question is whether it's still cheaper to buy Giga PCs than to > buy all that RAM! > > So the answer to Cyril's question is that we'll have to wait and see. Hello Nick Have you tried to run your samples from your internal HD Best regards Cyril Blanc France If you want to be sure I read your answer leave my name in it ! Spam mails are directly going to trash

Hello How do you convert MPC format to AIF or to MP3 ? (freeware !) Thanks in advance. Best regards Cyril Blanc France If you want to be sure I read your answer leave my name in it ! Spam mails are directly going to trash

Cyril Blanc on 29/6/03 4:23 PM, Cyril Blanc at blanc.cyril@... wrote: > Hello > > How do you convert MPC format to AIF or to MP3 ? (freeware !) There's a program called MPC Convert that will convert MPC to aiff or SD2. It's shareware. Do a web search you should find it. -- ==/==/==/==/==/==/==/==/= Paul Najar Jaminajar Music Production http://www.jaminajar.com.au

as long as you have a link from the Logic 6.1 sampler instruments folder to your .exs files there is no problem... put your folders wherever you want. put an alias of them in"Logic 6 series" sampler instruments folder, that's all. or even put your sampler instruments directly into this folder. Raf Le dimanche, 29 juin 2003, à 07:03 Europe/Paris, spamisevil2001 a écrit : > Maybe I'm paranoid, but I've just upgraded to LAP 6.1 and all my > sampler instruments are in my Logic 5 folder. Now I've put an alias to > the > Logic 5 location in the folder of the same name in Logic 6 folder, but > really > I want to move the sampler instruments folder over to the Logic 6 > folder > completely, but I'm afraid that next time I open up a song my EXS > plugin will > be empty because the songs all reference the Logic 5 folder. What do I > do? > > John > > <image.tiff> > > > ____________________________________________________________ >             &nbs p;         EXS* Users Group > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Well then...doesn't seem worth it does it! Go for the audio version and slice and dice in Recycle. What a waste of time! You'd think BT would have been on top of this. Check out some of the Skippy's stuff on Spectrasonics site. Excellent grooves, nicely sliced with Groove Control and you can reshuffle the beats any way you like to create new grooves. I've done a few movie cues where I just took the groove control version of one of his beats and created an entire new bizarre sequence at a totally different tempo. Great system. James on 6/28/03 4:20 PM, Ned Bouhalassa at ned@... wrote: Sorry to dissapoint you James (and others), but no, the AKAI version of Beatz certainly does not have a sliced-up version of the beats. AFAIK, the audio and AKAI are the same, only the AKAI is mapped out. Someone with the hande Ed has asked this very same question to Doug Rogers (head of East-West) on the East-West Forum of the excellent Northern Sounds sample discussion web site. You can follow the thread here: http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f$;t 0251 BTW, Groove Control is only used in Spectrasonics products, like BackBeat, Retro-Funk and Stylus... Ned James Ryan wrote: > I would guess it's to do with "groove control." Probably the Akai version > has each beat mapped to a key. You then import the sequence for that groove > into the sequencer, and when you play it back on the Akai channel, the > groove plays correctly at the speed of your sequencer - any speed within > reason. Something like Recycle. Actually, exactly like Recycle. The extra > $100 is probably for the effort to break all the grooves out into a Recycle > or Groove Control format.

--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bruno - FMspot <bruno@f...> wrote: > To convert my Kurzweil CDs into EXS format, is CDXtract the best tool? > Bruno Well there's also Chicken Systems Translator..... Keith

I have both. CDXtract gets my vote. JR ----- Original Message ----- From: keith_crupi To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [EXS]CDXtract: the best? --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bruno - FMspot <bruno@f...> wrote: > To convert my Kurzweil CDs into EXS format, is CDXtract the best tool? > Bruno Well there's also Chicken Systems Translator..... Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ____________________________________________________________ EXS* Users Group - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

I have both..depends on what you're doing.... julie On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 09:04 PM, James Ryan wrote: > I have both.  CDXtract gets my vote.  > > JR >   ----- Original Message ----- >   From: keith_crupi >   To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >   Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:21 PM >   Subject: Re: [EXS]CDXtract: the best? > > >   --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bruno - FMspot <bruno@f...> wrote: >   > To convert my Kurzweil CDs into EXS format, is CDXtract the best > tool? >   > Bruno > >   Well there's also Chicken Systems Translator..... > >   Keith > > > >         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor >        >        > >   ____________________________________________________________ >             &nbs p;           EXS* Users Group >   - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ >   - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >   - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com >   - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > >   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > <image.tiff> > > > ____________________________________________________________ >             &nbs p;         EXS* Users Group > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

I apologize...I didn't read the thread thoroughly....for Kurzweil translations...for me it's Translator. I've never been able to get CDXtract to do it. Am I missing something? julie On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 09:06 PM, Julie Larson wrote: > I have both..depends on what you're doing.... > > julie > > On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 09:04  PM, James Ryan wrote: > > > I have both.  CDXtract gets my vote.  > > > > JR > >   ----- Original Message ----- > >   From: keith_crupi > >   To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > >   Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:21 PM > >   Subject: Re: [EXS]CDXtract: the best? > > > > > >   --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bruno - FMspot <bruno@f...> > wrote: > >   > To convert my Kurzweil CDs into EXS format, is CDXtract the best > > tool? > >   > Bruno > > > >   Well there's also Chicken Systems Translator..... > > > >   Keith > > > > > > > >         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > >        > >        > > > >   ____________________________________________________________ > >             &nbs p;           EXS* Users Group > >   - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > >   - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >   - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > >   - Free legal samples: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > >   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > <image.tiff> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > >             &nbs p;         EXS* Users Group > > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > <image.tiff> > > > ____________________________________________________________ >             &nbs p;         EXS* Users Group > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

On 29/06/03 12:38, "Paul Najar" <pnajar@...> wrote: > Cyril Blanc on 29/6/03 4:23 PM, Cyril Blanc at blanc.cyril@... wrote: > >> > Hello >> > >> > How do you convert MPC format to AIF or to MP3 ? (freeware !) > > There's a program called MPC Convert that will convert MPC to aiff or SD2. > It's shareware. Do a web search you should find it. > Hello Paul The MPC convert I found on Google run¹s on PC, I am on Mac Do you have another solution Thanks in advance. Best regards Cyril Blanc France If you want to be sure I read your answer leave my name in it ! Spam mails are directly going to trash

Wow. I tried to convert a Boulder Sounds group from Kurzweil to EXS using Translator, and it put big thumps at the front of all the samples and ruined all their fadeups. Totally useless. Haven't tried CDXtract for it. I went back to just using my Kurzweil 2500. Inconvenient, but accurate. JR ----- Original Message ----- From: Julie Larson To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [EXS]CDXtract: the best? I apologize...I didn't read the thread thoroughly....for Kurzweil translations...for me it's Translator. I've never been able to get CDXtract to do it. Am I missing something? julie On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 09:06 PM, Julie Larson wrote: > I have both..depends on what you're doing.... > > julie > > On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 09:04 PM, James Ryan wrote: > > > I have both. CDXtract gets my vote. > > > > JR > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: keith_crupi > > To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [EXS]CDXtract: the best? > > > > > > --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bruno - FMspot <bruno@f...> > wrote: > > > To convert my Kurzweil CDs into EXS format, is CDXtract the best > > tool? > > > Bruno > > > > Well there's also Chicken Systems Translator..... > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > EXS* Users Group > > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > > - Free legal samples: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > <image.tiff> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > EXS* Users Group > > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > <image.tiff> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > EXS* Users Group > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ____________________________________________________________ EXS* Users Group - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Yeah...I've had some of that....but CDXtract wouldn't do it at all. I wrote ChickenSys last week about it and Garth said that the latest update fixes the problem. Julie On Monday, June 30, 2003, at 09:11 AM, James Ryan wrote: > Wow.  I tried to convert a Boulder Sounds group from Kurzweil to EXS > using Translator, and it put big thumps at the front of all the > samples and ruined all their fadeups.  Totally useless.  Haven't tried > CDXtract for it.  I went back to just using my Kurzweil 2500.  > Inconvenient, but accurate. > > JR >   ----- Original Message ----- >   From: Julie Larson >   To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >   Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 10:35 PM >   Subject: Re: [EXS]CDXtract: the best? > > >   I apologize...I didn't read the thread thoroughly....for Kurzweil >   translations...for me it's Translator.  I've never been able to get >   CDXtract to do it.   Am I missing something? > >   julie > > > >   On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 09:06  PM, Julie Larson wrote: > >   > I have both..depends on what you're doing.... >   > >   > julie >   > >   > On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 09:04  PM, James Ryan wrote: >   > >   > > I have both.  CDXtract gets my vote. >   > > >   > > JR >   > >   ----- Original Message ----- >   > >   From: keith_crupi >   > >   To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com >   > >   Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:21 PM >   > >   Subject: Re: [EXS]CDXtract: the best? >   > > >   > > >   > >   --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Bruno - FMspot <bruno@f...> >   > wrote: >   > >   > To convert my Kurzweil CDs into EXS format, is CDXtract the > best >   > > tool? >   > >   > Bruno >   > > >   > >   Well there's also Chicken Systems Translator..... >   > > >   > >   Keith >   > > >   > > >   > > >   > >         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor >   > >       >   > >       >   > > >   > >   ____________________________________________________________ >   > >                          EXS* Users Group >   > >   - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ >   > >   - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >   > >   - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com >   > >   - Free legal samples: >   > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ >   > > >   > >   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >   > Service. >   > > >   > > >   > > >   > > >   > > >   > <image.tiff> >   > > >   > > >   > > ____________________________________________________________ >   > >                       EXS* Users Group >   > > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ >   > > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >   > > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com >   > > - Free legal samples: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ >   > > >   > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. >   > >   > >   > >   > >   <image.tiff> >   > >   > >   > ____________________________________________________________ >   >                        EXS* Users Group >   > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ >   > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >   > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com >   > - Free legal samples: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ >   > >   > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > >   > > >         Yahoo! Groups Sponsor >             &nbs p; ADVERTISEMENT >              >        >        > >   ____________________________________________________________ >             &nbs p;           EXS* Users Group >   - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ >   - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >   - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com >   - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > >   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > <image.tiff> > > > ____________________________________________________________ >             &nbs p;         EXS* Users Group > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - Contact list admin: email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.