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From: teddybut <teddybut@...>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 at 12:36:12 PM
Subject: Re: Giga conversion file locations
Message #8901
> At 08:02 PM 04/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: >> copy all the folders inside logic related to samples (sampler insts, giga, >> Akai, Recycle, etc...) to your sample drive. delete the originals from >> inside the logic folder. make aliases of those copied folders on your sample >> drive and put them inside the logic folder. then logic sees everything where >> it originally was and doesn't have to search, but all the data goes to the >> sample drive. >> >> teddybut > > > Yes, understood. It's the copying and deleting steps I'd like to eliminate, > but that will only become possible if Emagic adds an option for specifying > the location of the files as they're converted. you're missing the point. you do this once then all the future things you convert go to your sample drive. teddybut
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From: Sean McCoy <osr@...>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 at 12:51:45 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Giga conversion file locations
Message #8902
This is a reply to #8901.
At 01:36 PM 04/28/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > At 08:02 PM 04/27/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >> copy all the folders inside logic related to samples (sampler insts, giga, > >> Akai, Recycle, etc...) to your sample drive. delete the originals from > >> inside the logic folder. make aliases of those copied folders on your > sample > >> drive and put them inside the logic folder. then logic sees everything > where > >> it originally was and doesn't have to search, but all the data goes to the > >> sample drive. > >> > >> teddybut > > > > > > Yes, understood. It's the copying and deleting steps I'd like to eliminate, > > but that will only become possible if Emagic adds an option for specifying > > the location of the files as they're converted. > >you're missing the point. you do this once then all the future things you >convert go to your sample drive. > >teddybut Hmm, sorry to beat this to death, but I don't think so when it comes to Giga importing. Everything sample related is already on my sample drive, with an alias to the Sampler Instruments folder inside Logic. This works perfectly for EXS24 instruments and samples. But when I delete the original "DLS-Giga Samples" folder and create an alias to identically named folder on the sample drive, Logic ignores the alias and creates a new original in the Logic folder during the Giga conversion process. The converted files again end up in the Logic folder on my system drive and have to be manually moved to the sample drive. Am I still missing something? Sean
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From: Jer Olsen <HELP@...>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 at 1:08:20 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Giga conversion file locations
Message #8903
This is a reply to #8900.
In case it slipped by, just want to make sure people understand you can scan a single folder, rather than all discs, cutting the scan time DRAMATICALLY. AND you can scan incrementally, after additional imports. It's doesn't get faster than this. > The Project Manager is the best way to do it -- just open that window, and > from the menu bar do FUNCTIONS>SCAN. It takes a bit, but it locates EVERY > SINGLE audio + logic-related file on your hard drives. I would do this > before bringing in another piece of software... it's easy!
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From: "Sascha Franck" <S.Franck@...>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 at 2:07:39 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] EXS24 errors I'm getting - "Access is Denied", etc.
Message #8904
This is a reply to #8896.
burningmoongod wrote: > I'm having 2 errors come up in EXS24 - the most annoying is the > "Access is Denied - Result Code=5" which comes up whenever I load > non-factory EXS24 format sounds into EXS24. This error comes up again > whenever I open up the song. Check if your used .exs instrument files are "read only". As the EXS is adding sample locations automatically, it will have to have write access to those, otherwise the "Code=5" error will come up. In addition it will take it WAY longer to find the appropriate samples. No idea about your other problem, sorry. Regards, Sascha
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 at 3:17:31 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Re: Giga conversion file locations
Message #8905
This is a reply to #8902.
On a fine day, 28-04-2003, Sean McCoy wrote: >Everything sample related is already on my sample drive, >with an alias to the Sampler Instruments folder inside Logic. This works >perfectly for EXS24 instruments and samples. But when I delete the original >"DLS-Giga Samples" folder and create an alias to identically named folder >on the sample drive, Logic ignores the alias and creates a new original in >the Logic folder during the Giga conversion process. The converted files >again end up in the Logic folder on my system drive and have to be manually >moved to the sample drive. Am I still missing something? I don't get this... If you've created an alias called "xyz", then how on earth can Logic create a folder that's called "xyz" as well in the same directory??? So you mean to say that at the end of the process you have _2_ objects with identical names in the same directory??? -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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From: "lilainjil" <andym@...>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 at 3:41:03 PM
Subject: Duplicate sample name problem
Message #8906
I just bought an Akai format CD-ROM. Converted the disc to EXS24 with Translator. Unfortunately the CD-ROM programmers named all the samples within each program the same e.g. "1. AIF" "2. AIF" "3. AIF" etc. So, of course the EXS24 gets confused when it looks for the correct samples. The standard window comes up saying more than one sample found and offers me a maximum of three choices. Problem is the correct sample is usually not among those three choices listed. Has anyone found a workaround for this situation yet? I realize a similar topic came up a while ago regarding duplicate instrument names. For now I'm looking at renaming a thousand-odd samples - or picking up a cheap S3000. Neither option is appealing. thanks, Andy Logic 6 G4 DP450 OS9.2
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From: pezcuelloelith@...
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 at 5:11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] (LAM) Akai convert problem - not OSX related
Message #8907
En un mensaje con fecha 28/04/2003 8:44:38 Hora estándar de México, drbentye@... escribe: > > Any advice? - I'm reluctant to go out and buy ChickenSys or CDExtract as I > only own a handful of sample CD's and they are all AKAI, so if there's > something I can do without spending more money, I'd appreciate it. I can't > understand why it isn't working anymore because I'm still on OS 9.x... > You must convert with exs 24 in Os 9.2 first. Later reboot in OSX and open your imported files in esx24 II... Elith
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From: Phil Buckle <pbuckle@...>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 at 6:07:28 PM
Subject: Intakt
Message #8908
on 29/4/03 12:05 AM, exs-users@yahoogroups.com at exs-users@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Subject: OT INtakt/EXS companion > > Anyone pick up Intakt yet? If so what are your thoughts? Not available until October. From them........... Dear Phil, The release of Intakt is planned for October. Best regards Jan > > Phil > Buckle > pbuckle@... > What is the estimated release date of intakt? > Phil Buckle. > > > That's what's called vaporware. The cynic in me says that they wanted to stop the popularity of Phatmatik by announcing..............last November..............something that would not be ready for almost a year. Make of it what you will. Phil Buckle.
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 1:24:08 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Duplicate sample name problem
Message #8909
This is a reply to #8906.
On a fine day, 28-04-2003, lilainjil wrote: >I just bought an Akai format CD-ROM. Converted the disc to EXS24 >with Translator. >Unfortunately the CD-ROM programmers named all the samples within each >program the same e.g. "1. AIF" "2. AIF" "3. AIF" etc. >So, of course the EXS24 gets confused when it looks for the correct >samples. The >standard window comes up saying more than one sample found and offers me a >maximum of three choices. Problem is the correct sample is >usually not among those three choices listed. If I remember correctly, the EXS only gives you a choice between samples that are identical -- i.e. not just having the same name, but having (at least) the same filelength as well. So it might very well be that you just have 5 or more copies of the exact same sample on your HD. If the EXS then lets you choose from 3 of them, it wouldn't matter which one you pick, as they're all the same anyway. But maybe I'm completely wrong here... >For now I'm looking at renaming a thousand-odd samples - or picking up a cheap >S3000. Neither option is appealing. Renaming won't work, except when you _also_ manually update the EXS instruments. Talking about "not appealing"... Phew... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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From: Music Producers Association <veuahiah@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 4:18:25 AM
Subject: (no text)
Message #8910
Hi Im new here, i have one question so far WHEN IS THE NEW ESX COMMING OUT, i mean, a ONE SCREEN FLIP MENU with OPTION de attached keyboard sample lay out would help, as well as many other features that are MODERN? thanks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
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From: "jaybirdknows" <jaybirdknows@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 8:54:33 AM
Subject: Xtreme in OSX
Message #8911
I recently purchased a copy of the Xtreme Analog samples at a music store close out sale (ie:no returns) and it seems to be an older version which only installs in OS 9. I'm using OSX and the exs24 mkII. From the advanced folder, I was able to get the sounds into my sample folder and the basic waveforms folder in my Instruments folder. That all works. But the Xtreme Analog folder, which I also copied into my sampler instruments folder, isn't recognized by the sampler, even after I select "refresh menu". Any thoughts? thanks jk
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From: "e_muzikfreak" <yuminghsun@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 9:09:11 AM
Subject: difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII
Message #8912
Hello all, I'm new to here. I'm planing to buy EXS24 on ebay. Could anybody tell me what's the main difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII?? Can MK I version 1.0 be upgraded to MK II??? I've searched the emagic web site, but with no luck to find the answer. Thanks in advance.
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From: "Pev" <no_such_user@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 9:42:14 AM
Subject: RE: [EXS] difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII
Message #8913
This is a reply to #8912.
> I'm new to here. I'm planing to buy EXS24 on ebay. Could anybody tell me > what's the main difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII?? > Can MK I version 1.0 be upgraded to MK II??? What youre buying is the authorisation. If you have logic v5.5 or later you will use EXS v2, and earlier, EXS v1. The auth authorises both. Take care however - not all EXS24 CD's can have their licence transferred to a new owner apparently, and if you use an XSkey, you'll need to do this to get an authorisation to put in the key. Check your local distie for details. ~Pev
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From: "Pev" <no_such_user@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 9:43:09 AM
Subject: RE: [EXS] Xtreme in OSX
Message #8914
This is a reply to #8911.
> Any thoughts? The installer runs fine in classic mode and shouldnt cause any problems...! ~Pev
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From: Jer Olsen <HELP@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 10:04:17 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII
Message #8915
This is a reply to #8913.
Good point. Personally, I don't advise an eBay purchase. The Mark II offers drastically more powerful routing capabilities. It's superior in my opinion. Also, the difference of Mark II versus Mark I is your Logic version, not your CD install version (which really isn't an installer). -Jer >> > I'm new to here. I'm planing to buy EXS24 on ebay. Could anybody tell me >> > what's the main difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII?? >> > Can MK I version 1.0 be upgraded to MK II??? > What youre buying is the authorisation. If you have logic v5.5 or later you > will use EXS v2, and earlier, EXS v1. The auth authorises both. > > Take care however - not all EXS24 CD's can have their licence transferred to > a new owner apparently, and if you use an XSkey, you'll need to do this to > get an authorisation to put in the key. Check your local distie for details. > > ~Pev
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From: Murray McDowall <murraymc@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 10:19:18 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII
Message #8916
This is a reply to #8915.
Jer Olsen wrote: > > Good point. Personally, I don't advise an eBay purchase. The Mark II offers > drastically more powerful routing capabilities. It's superior in my opinion. > Also, the difference of Mark II versus Mark I is your Logic version, not > your CD install version (which really isn't an installer). -Jer Does Emagic still offer a swap of the old CD for the EXS24 for an XS key code for the EXS24? If so, this could be a good deal -- assuming it is a legit version that is being sold. Regards, Murray
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From: Jer Olsen <HELP@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 10:57:34 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII
Message #8917
This is a reply to #8916.
You should contact Emagic tech support for this and get a case number for the exchange. You can get varied information if you're not careful. Make the arrangement in advance, should you choose to do this. Then you can proceed with greater confidence. Policies have shifted a lot in the last year or so. Better to be safe than sorry! > Does Emagic still offer a swap of the old CD for the EXS24 for an XS key code > for the EXS24? If so, this could be a good deal -- assuming it is a legit > version that is being sold. > > Regards, > Murray
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From: "Pev" <no_such_user@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 10:59:36 AM
Subject: RE: [EXS] difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII
Message #8918
This is a reply to #8916.
> Does Emagic still offer a swap of the old CD for the EXS24 for an > XS key code > for the EXS24? If so, this could be a good deal -- assuming it is a legit > version that is being sold. They do, but with the one caveat I was warning of : - v4 EXS CD's can be transferred / converted to a code. - v5 EXS CD's can not, and are labelled as "Not valid as proof of purchase" ~Pev
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From: "e_muzikfreak" <yuminghsun@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 11:07:43 AM
Subject: Re: [EXS] difference between EXS24MK I and EXS24MKII
Message #8919
This is a reply to #8917.
Hi Pev, Murry, and Jer. Thanks for the info. I just emailed Emagic tech and hope they'll reply me soon. Thanks you guys again and take care :-) --- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Jer Olsen <HELP@M...> wrote: > You should contact Emagic tech support for this and get a case number for > the exchange. You can get varied information if you're not careful. Make the > arrangement in advance, should you choose to do this. Then you can proceed > with greater confidence. Policies have shifted a lot in the last year or so. > Better to be safe than sorry! > > > Does Emagic still offer a swap of the old CD for the EXS24 for an XS key code > > for the EXS24? If so, this could be a good deal -- assuming it is a legit > > version that is being sold. > > > > Regards, > > Murray > > > > >
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From: drbentye@...
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 11:28:19 AM
Subject: Re: (LAM) Akai convert problem - not OSX related
Message #8920
Elith wrote >You must convert with exs 24 in Os 9.2 first. Later reboot in >OSX and open >your imported files in esx24 II... Sorry Elith, my original post wasn't clear enough - I'm not using OSX at all - I'm still in 9.2 and the conversion process has stopped working after upgrading to LAM 5.5. Ben
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From: "Evan Evans" <evanevans@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 11:41:58 AM
Subject: Multisamples Groups Zones & Sample Select
Message #8921
Does anyone know how to do what I'd the EXS24mkII to do? I want to have a sampled Violins patch consisting of: PP, MF, and FF long samples, that are velocity switched and velocity crossfaded. AND, I want it to when I apply MOD WHEEL (CTRL#1), the whole keyboard switches to: Tremelo Violins. PP, MF, FF, that are also velocity switched and velocity crossfaded. I would even settle for all of the above without Velocity crossfading. Does anyone have an idea how to do this? I have a feeling it'll have something to do with Zones, Groups, and Sample Select. Thanks, Evan Evans Film Composer
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From: "spencercorden" <scorden@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 1:04:05 PM
Subject: disable 'one shot'?
Message #8922
Hi, I'm currently trying to convert audio from a CD into the EXS (Complete Celt). WIthin each CD track are multiple phrases, which I am stripping the silence from and applying as different zones laid out chromatically. Here's my problem: I can't figure out how to keep the EXS from always having the 'one shot' box checked. I've tried after the fact to group select and turn all zone one shots off, but no luck. If at all possible, I'd like to avoid having to open up each zone and uncheck that box. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Spencer Corden Senior Composer HGTV/Food Network/DIY/Scripps Productions
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From: teddybut <teddybut@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 2:47:01 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Digest Number 953
Message #8923
> > Re: Giga conversion file locations > > On a fine day, 28-04-2003, Sean McCoy wrote: > >> Everything sample related is already on my sample drive, >> with an alias to the Sampler Instruments folder inside Logic. This works >> perfectly for EXS24 instruments and samples. But when I delete the original >> "DLS-Giga Samples" folder and create an alias to identically named folder >> on the sample drive, Logic ignores the alias and creates a new original in >> the Logic folder during the Giga conversion process. The converted files >> again end up in the Logic folder on my system drive and have to be manually >> moved to the sample drive. Am I still missing something? > > I don't get this... If you've created an alias called "xyz", then > how on earth can Logic create a folder that's called "xyz" as well in > the same directory??? So you mean to say that at the end of the > process you have _2_ objects with identical names in the same > directory??? > > -- > Hendrik Jan Veenstra ya, doesn't make much sense to me either. wouldn't it get named with a -1 after it. ... or something. teddybut
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 3:27:24 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] disable 'one shot'?
Message #8924
This is a reply to #8922.
On a fine day, 29-04-2003, spencercorden wrote: >Here's my problem: I can't figure >out how to keep the EXS from always having the 'one shot' box >checked. I've tried after the fact to group select and turn all zone >one shots off, but no luck. If at all possible, I'd like to avoid >having to open up each zone and uncheck that box. Any help >would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Select all zones, press the Option key, and then click-uncheck one of the one-shot checkboxes. By holding Option down, you'll uncheck them all in one go. This works for all checkboxes and the group-popup in zones and groups. It's a pity it doesn't work for numerical values as well. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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From: Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 at 3:56:37 PM
Subject: Re: [EXS] Multisamples Groups Zones & Sample Select
Message #8925
This is a reply to #8921.
On a fine day, 29-04-2003, Evan Evans wrote: >Does anyone know how to do what I'd the EXS24mkII to do? > >I want to have a sampled Violins patch consisting of: > >PP, MF, and FF long samples, that are velocity switched and velocity >crossfaded. > >AND, > >I want it to when I apply MOD WHEEL (CTRL#1), the whole keyboard >switches to: > >Tremelo Violins. PP, MF, FF, that are also velocity switched and velocity >crossfaded. > >I would even settle for all of the above without Velocity crossfading. Does >anyone have an idea how to do this? > >I have a feeling it'll have something to do with Zones, Groups, and Sample >Select. Correct feeling :-). Set up 6 groups. Let's suppose groups 1,2,3 are pp, mf and ff long samples, and groups 4,5,6 are tremolo pp, mf and ff respectively. In group 1, set 'Select range' to 1-40, in group 2 set this to 41-80 and in group 3 it's 81-127. Do the exact same for groups 4-6. This will give you velocity crossfading between dynamics. Then in groups 1,2 3, in the first 'Select by' slot, pick 'Ctrl' and '1', and in the 'Ctrl Range' slots enter 0-63. In groups 4,5,6, also set 'Select by' to Ctrl 1, and set the 'Ctrl Range' to 64-127. Save the instrument, close the Instrument editor, and in the EXS interface dial in a non-zero value in the 'Amount' field (left side of the window, right above the 1st modulation matrix thingy). This value determines the amount of crossfading. Now finally deal with the first modulation matrix slot. Make sure Dest is set to Sample Select, 'via' is empty, and Src is velocity. Now when the modwheel is between 0 and 63, you'll be playing the velocity xfaded long samples, and with modwheel between 64 and 127, you'll play the velocity xfaded tremolo. I don't know how well this will sound though. In my experience, velocity xfading natural instruments tends to give a kind of "doubled" effect in the xfade region, instead of the intended gradual fade. And note that the above setup does _not_ provide an xfade between regular and tremolo samples. It's unfortunately not possible to have 2 different kinds of crossfades happen simultaneously. Would be possible with some basic environment patching, but that's a different story.... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.omega-art.com/
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