Hi! I just downloaded thw bass trombone and I'm thinking of exs'ing it, but I'm very busy at the moment with another project, probably won't make it in time, but I'm up to it. are we gonna share the files/exs-instruments via yahoogroups-file section? I'm on a broadband connection, so I rather need the Instruments than the audio-files. Nice to "share a Project" with you guys out there, regards from Germany, frank valet

--- In exs-users@y..., Frank Valet <frank.valet@w...> wrote: > Hi! I just downloaded thw bass trombone and I'm thinking of exs'ing it, but > I'm very busy at the moment with another project, probably won't make it in > time, but I'm up to it. are we gonna share the files/exs-instruments via > yahoogroups-file section? I'm on a broadband connection, so I rather need > the Instruments than the audio-files. Nice to "share a Project" with you > guys out there, regards from Germany, > frank valet That's great Frank! You don't have to finish the instrument by tomorrow....;-) I'll put you up for the Basstrombone. I'm setting up a webpage with the names of the volunteers with wishes. @nders

Ok, so I got Phatmatik Pro. whassup with this Phat behavior? I instanciate Phatmatik I click on the file browser I find a sample I double click it to open Phatmatik says "could not open^*&^&^ file, file not found" pr some such nonsense what the heck is this? I can open aiff files and quicktime files. this seem to only happen on SD2 files and REX files. I'll try more file types and let you guys know what i find, but, since most of my samples are SD2 or REX I guess I'll have to convert them to aiff to find out whassup. boring and stupid... anyone else see this? teddybut

On 30/10/02 9:53 pm, "teddybut" <teddybut@...> wrote: > so I got Phatmatik Pro. > > whassup with this Phat behavior? Try emailing Art at Bitshift - he's a top bloke and likely to reply back quickly with help. ~Pev __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

It cannot do rex as those assholes at Propellerheads refused to liscence him the code. Hector. ----- Original Message ----- From: teddybut <teddybut@...> > whassup with this Phat behavior? > > I instanciate Phatmatik > I click on the file browser > I find a sample > I double click it to open > Phatmatik says "could not open^*&^&^ file, file not found" pr some such > nonsense > > what the heck is this? > > I can open aiff files and quicktime files. this seem to only happen on SD2 > files and REX files. I'll try more file types and let you guys know what i > find, but, since most of my samples are SD2 or REX I guess I'll have to > convert them to aiff to find out whassup. boring and stupid...

> Ok, > > so I got Phatmatik Pro. > > whassup with this Phat behavior? > > I instanciate Phatmatik > I click on the file browser > I find a sample > I double click it to open > Phatmatik says "could not open^*&^&^ file, file not found" pr some such > nonsense > > what the heck is this? > > I can open aiff files and quicktime files. this seem to only happen on SD2 > files and REX files. I'll try more file types and let you guys know what i > find, but, since most of my samples are SD2 or REX I guess I'll have to > convert them to aiff to find out whassup. boring and stupid... > > anyone else see this? > > teddybut Hiya again!! Mine works fine altho its file selection process is non-standard ... but faster as a result. Sorry to be of no help. Tony Perretta Ps. How's the L-OT?

Pls ignore my previous mail - I misread the REX bit ... I don't use Recycle .... sorry Tony Perretta

Phatmatik Pro can't read SDII files. It can read AIFF and WAV. Let's hope the OS X version will read SDII. Matt > Ok, > > so I got Phatmatik Pro. > > whassup with this Phat behavior? > > I instanciate Phatmatik > I click on the file browser > I find a sample > I double click it to open > Phatmatik says "could not open^*&^&^ file, file not found" pr some such > nonsense > > what the heck is this? > > I can open aiff files and quicktime files. this seem to only happen on SD2 > files and REX files. I'll try more file types and let you guys know what i > find, but, since most of my samples are SD2 or REX I guess I'll have to > convert them to aiff to find out whassup. boring and stupid... > > anyone else see this? > > teddybut >

> Does anyone know of a utility for the Mac like this website copier? > Thanks! > Graham. Look for site sucker Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen <niko@...>

You are keeping track of who is downloading their own samples, right? The CD idea is great for not burdening any one person with extra costs, but they should really be sent only to people without broadband (or those who need a CD regardless of having broadband, for whatever reason.) Here I am nagging, and I can't even help, since I have only the EXSP24, which can't create instruments. But I'm good for moral support, sort of! Gregory PS: I now understand why Hendrik and Sascha are able to do as much programming as they do - it keeps them busy while they wait for large files to be downloaded over a 56K modem. From: "elverhoy" <anders@...> Reply-To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:15:43 -0000 To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: [exs] Re: Free samples from the U. of Iowa --- In exs-users@y..., Frank Valet <frank.valet@w...> wrote: > Hi! I just downloaded thw bass trombone and I'm thinking of exs'ing it, but > I'm very busy at the moment with another project, probably won't make it in > time, but I'm up to it. are we gonna share the files/exs-instruments via > yahoogroups-file section? I'm on a broadband connection, so I rather need > the Instruments than the audio-files. Nice to "share a Project" with you > guys out there, regards from Germany, > frank valet That's great Frank! You don't have to finish the instrument by tomorrow....;-) I'll put you up for the Basstrombone. I'm setting up a webpage with the names of the volunteers with wishes. @nders Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com For a list of places to get free samples please see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; .

I switched about a month ago to Mac and upgraded from LAW 3.6 to OSX 5.4. I also acquired the ESX24. Finally Logic is "working". I activated the demo and received my XKEY for the ESX24. When I load the ESX24, I can't seem to find any instruments. Can someone assist me in where on the Mac my Sampler Folder should reside? Where should the samples reside? I am utterly confused. I did go to theEmagic show in L.A. last night and am very excited about starting to use the ESX24 - exspecially with REX files. Wow. If some of you are using Recycle, can you purchase REX'ed (if that is the word?) files and therefore bypass finding drum loops and Recycling them? Maybe this is "basic stuff" but I''m very new to the sampler. Many thanks Tony - Antcinq@...

Very nice of the broadband folks who allready said they'd be sending out CDs... there's a problem left though. I allready downloaded quite some samples and doing instrument patches of them certainly requires a whole lot of work. Why? Because a) IMO a lot of them need to be normalized, b) a lot of them need to be destructively edited in order to get proper loop points (ok, one could just map them, but from what I've seen this won't allways lead to proper results), c) all of them need their startpoints to be adjusted. Sure, apart from normalizing you can do all these things non-destructively in the EXS editor, then just upload the EXS patches and then everybody having the samples would be able to enjoy finished instruments... but as I allready tried mapping some instruments I can ensure you that in many cases destructive editing (such as proper cutting, eventual destructive looping and "save as"-ing) is the only way to go unless you'd like to spend ages in the EXS editor (we all know it's not THAT great). The only exception might be the piano samples. The only thing required there would be start point adjustment, which can be done easily inside the EXS editor. Oh, another point is the filenames. For whatever reason they are named .aiff instead of .aif (which actually contains the same file information). AIFF on PCs isn't exactly supported well (WaveLab for instance only supports AIF naturally). I renamed them all because of that... Anyways, if someone wouldn't mind sending a CD (or two, that piano is ridiculously huge) to my adress I'd gladly send some CD(s) further, both with patches and eventually destructively edited samples. Maybe we could arrange a snail mailing chain, so each person only has to send CD(s) once. Regards, Sascha

Hi people, has anyone tried listening to the piano samples? They are very very very low in level. Normalising them is pointless- you end up with about with loads of noise sitting at -24db. Anyone got any ideas? jr

> > > I instanciate Phatmatik > > I click on the file browser > > I find a sample > > I double click it to open > > Phatmatik says "could not open^*&^&^ file, file not found" pr some such > > nonsense > > > > what the heck is this? > > > > I can open aiff files and quicktime files. this seem to only happen on SD2 > > files and REX files Art Gillespie assures that SD ll support is coming in the next upgrade. I asked him also about the possibility of supporting SDll region definitions as well. I got the feeling though he hadn't had had to many requests for this; so it wasn't on his current to do list. -- Eli Krantzberg Nightshift Orchestra / Almat Productions http://www.nightshiftorchestra.com

As seen on the LUG (I thought I'd forward this in case someone missed it), all courtesy of Mr. Joe Albano: > Part of the problem with the 1-voice hihat group thing is that if you keep > time with the open hat (ie 8th or 16th notes) each note is cut short by the > next, instead of all washing together like the real thing. A trick you > could do is: > > - Make all the hihats "one-shot" trigger-type > - Assign the hihat open and closed notes to the same group > - Make that group, say, 3-note polyphonic instead of 1-note > - Assign two more samples to the closed note, using a sample of silence, > or turning the level of both extras down to zero. > > Now when you keep time on the open hat, notes will overlap one over the > other (up to the limit of the polyphony you've assigned to the group), > sounding less choked and much more realistic (particularly if you have some > velocity to attack or sample start). When you hit the closed hihat note, it > will actually trigger 3 notes, the closed hat sound plus 2 silent notes; > the 3 notes combined should be enough to cut off all open hihat notes. The > only drawback is the extra polyphony used up for closed hihats, but since > those are usually short samples it shouldn't be too much of a problem. > > If you want to get fancier you could do the same trick with the hihat foot > sample, or also incorporate a half-open hat sample as well.. This is a killer tip in case you need those realistic 1/8 note open rock hats or something similar! Has been driving me mad since ages as NO virtual drum machine is doing this job well (they are all doing the mute group job using limited polyphony instead of note numbers). Regards, Sascha

Richmond, James wrote: > has anyone tried listening to the piano samples? > They are very very very low in level. > Normalising them is pointless- you end up with about with loads of noise > sitting at -24db. Yeah - those folks didn't seem to care too much about their recording levels (actually they didn't care at all). Also, I wonder if any of the engineers ever listened to the actually transferred audiofiles. There's some really nasty digital spikes (actually more like noise bursts) in some of those - I was just doing one Alto Flute patch and there's one spike in each of the files it seems. Regards, Sascha

Thoughts from the mind of antcinq, 31-10-2002: >I switched about a month ago to Mac and upgraded from LAW 3.6 to OSX 5.4. >I also acquired the ESX24. Finally Logic is "working". I activated the demo >and received my XKEY for the ESX24. When I load the ESX24, I can't seem to >find any instruments. Can someone assist me in where on the Mac my >Sampler Folder should reside? Where should the samples reside? I am >utterly confused. The instrument-files, ending in ".exs", should be in the "Sampler Instruments" folder in the Logic folder. The samples themselves can go anywhere -- Logic will simply scan your HD's until it finds the 1st matching samplefile. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Maybe they are derive from a sampling 101 class (ha, ha). -Jer > Richmond, James wrote: > >> has anyone tried listening to the piano samples? >> They are very very very low in level. >> Normalising them is pointless- you end up with about with loads of noise >> sitting at -24db. > > Yeah - those folks didn't seem to care too much about their recording levels > (actually they didn't care at all). Also, I wonder if any of the engineers > ever listened to the actually transferred audiofiles. There's some really > nasty digital spikes (actually more like noise bursts) in some of those - I > was just doing one Alto Flute patch and there's one spike in each of the > files it seems.

Thoughts from the mind of Sascha Franck, 31-10-2002: >Maybe we could arrange a snail mailing chain, so each person only has to >send CD(s) once. That was the idea -- see one of my previous posts (yesterday, I think). As for your other sensible comments... Anders is now downloading the entire website, I think (good boy :-), and once he's through, we should figure out a way how to go about this thing exactly... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

>> I can open aiff files and quicktime files. this seem to only happen on SD2 >> files and REX files. I'll try more file types and let you guys know what i >> find, but, since most of my samples are SD2 or REX I guess I'll have to >> convert them to aiff to find out whassup. boring and stupid... >> >> anyone else see this? >> >> teddybut > > Hiya again!! > > Mine works fine altho its file selection process is non-standard ... but > faster > as a result. > > Sorry to be of no help. > > Tony Perretta > > Ps. How's the L-OT? hahahaha, the OT list is pretty slow right now, no one has anyone or anything to argue about since you left... : ) I emailed Art at bitshift and he clued me in to the fact that his program just doesn't support SD2 or REX2. works fine with REX 1, wave and aiff though. thanks to everyone who tried to answer my question, teddybut

some web sites limit the number of simultaneous files/connection to a specific address. Some let you get round it by opening a number of browsers and selecting a couple files from each browser section, but the Iowa one seemed to limit it by IP address (dunno, maybe just me) but I just set my app going and left it to get on with it. Quicker than clicking all the individual files, and selecting where you want to download them to individually.. no ? -----Original Message----- From: Nassau [mailto:nassau@...] Sent: 30 October 2002 18:22 To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [exs] Free samples from the U. of Iowa > From: "Matt" <matt@...> > > There is a useful util called HTTrack Website Copier 3.2 available for free > on download.com > this application lets you download an entire website (or particular files > though a filter setting). > > It's beats sitting there downloading the files two at a time from each web > page, and mine is currently trawling the iowa one for everything it has to > offer > > i'm sure HTTrack is a great app but why are u d/l'ing one at a time? i download heaps of files simultaneously with IE and netscape... u should be able to do so too, no? just wondering peace, nassau :) To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com For a list of places to get free samples please see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

--- In exs-users@y..., "Sascha Franck" <saschafranck@s...> wrote: "NO virtual drum machine is doing this job well" > > Regards, > Sascha I'm having problems programming attack via velocity settings for creating realistic snare drum grace notes and buzz rolls. I have an Yamaha RM-50 that feels amazing. If I could only translate that feel (or similar) to the EXS! I've tried a whole bunch of different snare samples and even multi-samples using different velocity ranges but to no avail... Logic's sequencing is unequalled for programming realistic drum grooves via MIDI - the velocity tool in the matrix editor is a life saver for me. Any suuggestions? -Matt Miller

Hendrik Jan Veenstra wrote: > Anders is now > downloading the entire website, I think (good boy :-), and once he's > through, we should figure out a way how to go about this thing > exactly... Hm - I almost finished one flute patch (using the flute.novib samples), I will upload it later on. Even if I like those group efforts of sending CDs to each other (at least that's something proving we're a bit more than just plain ASCII characters...), I have my doubts it'll be worth it. I am not particularly impressed by that flute patch, but you may try it on your own (the flute.novib samples are 25MB, not that hard to get, even with a 56k modem). Also, as James said, the piano samples seem to be quite noisy and maybe there's not much of a point in using some noisy 1.5GB piano patch - let alone the efforts of mapping and adjusting all the notes. The 256MB AKAI piano certainly does a better job. Btw, at first I wasn't exactly impressed by that piano, but then I found some excellent piano MIDI file on the web (I'm such a miserable piano player, so there... http://www.saschafranck.de/BlueInGreen.mid) and dragged it onto the EXS track, slapped a bit of PSPs piano verb on it and WOW - there you go! Highly recommended along with Echochamber's brilliant double bass (in case you don't have it: http://www.echochamber.ch, defenitely a must). Regards, Sascha

mandcmiller wrote: > I'm having problems programming attack via velocity settings for > creating realistic snare drum grace notes and buzz rolls. I have an > Yamaha RM-50 that feels amazing. If I could only translate that feel > (or similar) to the EXS! I've tried a whole bunch of different snare > samples and even multi-samples using different velocity ranges but to > no avail... Logic's sequencing is unequalled for programming realistic > drum grooves via MIDI - the velocity tool in the matrix editor is a > life saver for me. Any suuggestions? You could try the velocity to attack function of the EXS's amp ADSR. In case you only need it for snares, setup some ADSR offset in all other groups. Very light settings should do a good job. However, a great method to usually achieve such an effect is to alter the sample start as well, following your velocity. Unfortunately the EXS only has that as a global option and you usually don't want cymbal samples to have a later sample start... Btw, talking about the velocity tool - have you ever tried hyperedit in drum mode for velocity editing? One of my favourites for snare rolls and the likes. Regards, Sascha

Any sound-examples available somewhere (where the teqnique can be explained ;-) of sampled drums sounding realistic? -----Original Message----- From: Sascha Franck [mailto:saschafranck@...] Sent: 31. oktober 2002 20:59 To: exs-users@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [exs] Re: Realistic HiHat Tip mandcmiller wrote: > I'm having problems programming attack via velocity settings for > creating realistic snare drum grace notes and buzz rolls. I have an > Yamaha RM-50 that feels amazing. If I could only translate that feel > (or similar) to the EXS! I've tried a whole bunch of different snare > samples and even multi-samples using different velocity ranges but to > no avail... Logic's sequencing is unequalled for programming realistic > drum grooves via MIDI - the velocity tool in the matrix editor is a > life saver for me. Any suuggestions? You could try the velocity to attack function of the EXS's amp ADSR. In case you only need it for snares, setup some ADSR offset in all other groups. Very light settings should do a good job. However, a great method to usually achieve such an effect is to alter the sample start as well, following your velocity. Unfortunately the EXS only has that as a global option and you usually don't want cymbal samples to have a later sample start... Btw, talking about the velocity tool - have you ever tried hyperedit in drum mode for velocity editing? One of my favourites for snare rolls and the likes. Regards, Sascha To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com For a list of places to get free samples please see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/