do u mean Previous/Nxt Zone/Group in Keycmds? This is all i could find? what are the midicc/fader no's for changing the exs patch (next and previous)? All the best... ----- Original Message ----- From: "nichtlineareaudioproduktionen" <niko_s@...> To: "exs users yahoogroups.com" <exs-users@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:04 AM Subject: [exs] Re: EXS24 - when will it include a next and previous patchbutton? > > Subject: Re: EXS24 - when will it include a next and previous patch button? > >> One of the more frustrating things with using EXS24 on a daily > >> basis is the lack of a next and previous patch buttons.... > >> > > > You can assign virtually any midi information to act as next/previous patch > > remote controls. > > Or look in the keycommands... > > > Nikolaus Sieveking > nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen > <niko@...> > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > For a list of places to get free samples please see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

> what are the midicc/fader no's for changing the exs patch (next and > previous)? They are not fixed. Open the EXS instrument editor, then go to "Edit > Preferences". There you can assign a lot of possible MIDI commands to select the previous/next instrument. Regards, Sascha

hello everybody, i'm actually using an icebook500, emi2|6 and logic 4.8.1, exs.. etc I desperately need automation right now so i should upgrade to logic 5. Problem is i've been told logic5 is much more cpu demanding, and with my icebook500 and 4.8.1 i'm alredy on the edge (just 1 platinumverb and some compressors before running out of cpu). So i guess if i upgrade to logic5 i'll have automation but NO cpu for a single reverb!¿? (anyone has tried this setup?) Therefore i'm thinking about going with the mbox and ptoolsLE for recording and mixing (as the icebook500 runs PTools LE fine with automation and several reverbs, comps, eqs..) and use logic just for midi composing/notation. So, does the digi mbox really work with logic -with propagama or whatever driver- under low latency settings? low latency enough to play live exs24 from a midi KB? thanx in advance, jindrich.

Sascha Franck [mailto:saschafranck@...] : >Open the EXS instrument editor, then go to "Edit > Preferences". >There you can assign a lot of possible MIDI commands >to select the previous/next instrument. Maybe someone can clarify. My EXS is dated end of 2001 and it came with Gold 4.8. I can't find this menu choice mentioned by Sascha, it isn't there. However the "previous/next instrument" commands are visible in the key commands window and can be assigned. The result is that you can walk through the instrument edit screens of instruments allready in a song. I don't find this very helpfull. I would like to browse and listen through all available instruments in a directory or so. Is this V5 functionality? Regards, Herbert Boland

Hi Herbert --- In exs-users@y..., "Herbert Boland" <yahoo@z...> wrote: > I would like to browse and listen > through all available instruments in a directory or so. Is this V5 > functionality? Here is what I do: 1) Open the edit window, not the graphic window 2) Click on the instrument selection window at the top once 3) Now when you use the numerical + and - keys you select the next or previous EXS instrument in the sample instrument folder This method seems to be base on Logic's convention that whenever you have a non-graphical data field you can use the + and - keys to change it's value after having highlighted it by clicking on it. Beware that if you click for too long a window with all your sample instruments open. In fact this window can be helpful too if you didn't know it already. Let me know if that was helpful. Kind regards, Soren

Herbert Boland wrote: > Maybe someone can clarify. My EXS is dated end of 2001 and it came with > Gold 4.8. I can't find this menu choice mentioned by Sascha, it isn't > there. However the "previous/next instrument" commands are visible in > the key commands window and can be assigned. The result is that you can > walk through the instrument edit screens of instruments allready in a > song. I don't find this very helpfull. Yeah well, this isn't related to the EXS anyways. > I would like to browse and listen > through all available instruments in a directory or so. Is this V5 > functionality? Hm, this defenitely is no V5 functionality, it was introduced in either 4.7 or 4.8, I don't remember clearly. I would wonder about it, but maybe this functionality hasn't made it into the Gold versions? Regards, Sascha

Hi Eric, Thanks for the detailed post regarding the production of loop libraries. I feel a big change is coming in the way this material is marketed. I don't think we'll ever see the likes of yours and Skippy's work released on CD again. Certainly not of that high standard. I know you are going the virtual instrument route but just when you think the way is clear along comes Phatmatik Pro and something tells me the path could take another turn. Have you checked it out yet? The possibilities are mind blowing. The things I've already done with Burning Grooves inside that plug......phew!! BTW for all you insatiable loopaholics, Phatmatik Pro makes it possible to access the whole Acid Library world from within Logic. Those discs are reasonably priced......plus you can access your existing loop library and slice it up, pan the slices, add delay, modulate, comb filter, distort and then save it with your song, did I mention it locks to the host tempo?........and it's only $100. I sound like a Yahoo advertisement. Phil Buckle.

--- In exs-users@y..., "Herbert Boland" <yahoo@z...> wrote: > I would like to browse and listen > through all available instruments in a directory or so. Is this V5 > functionality? Sascha replied: >Hm, this defenitely is no V5 functionality, it was introduced in >either 4.7 or 4.8, I don't remember clearly. I would wonder about >it, but maybe this functionality hasn't made it into the Gold versions? ... The EXS manual says version 2.0 (september 2001) and doesn't refer to any Logic version. So I guess everyone is equal in that respect. What number is on the EXS shipped with V5? Soren replied [mailto:sorenrv@...]: 1) Open the edit window, not the graphic window 2) Click on the instrument selection window at the top once 3) Now when you use the numerical + and - keys you select the next or previous EXS instrument in the sample instrument folder Thanks for assisting. Found it! A true time saver. Regards, Herbert Boland

Thoughts from the mind of Herbert Boland, 30-07-2002: >--- In exs-users@y..., "Herbert Boland" <yahoo@z...> wrote: >> I would like to browse and listen >> through all available instruments in a directory or so. Is this V5 >> functionality? > >Sascha replied: >>Hm, this defenitely is no V5 functionality, it was introduced in >>either 4.7 or 4.8, I don't remember clearly. I would wonder about >>it, but maybe this functionality hasn't made it into the Gold versions? > >... The EXS manual says version 2.0 (september 2001) and doesn't refer >to any Logic version. So I guess everyone is equal in that respect. What >number is on the EXS shipped with V5? Isn't there some confusion here as to what window we're talking about? Open an EXS instance, and in the EXS interface, click the Edit button left of the green display that shows the loaded instrument's name. That opens an instrument editor, which has it's own menu's. In one of those menu's you find the "Preferences" in which the prev/next stuff is located. If it isn't there, I seriously think something's wrong with your install. My ZoneSwitch environment crashing on you also made me wonder if you didn't have some sort of strange problem... And in reply to Sascha: I don't believe for a second that there is such a beast as an EXS-gold vs an EXS-Platinum. That would be bizarre... -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Phil Buckle wrote: [lots of great things about pHATmatik Pro] I agree, PPro is fantastic! Since I got it ReCycle is collecting dust over here. And I want to mention one further function which made my jaws drop all the way down when I checked it out for the first time: You can drag'n'drop slices straight from PPro to *any* sampler or drumsampler supporting d'n'd! So, in practice: You slice a loop in PPro, select all the slices, drag them onto, say, Battery or DR-008, then drag the PPro MIDI file onto your drumsampler's track and there you go, wow! After that you can use your drumsamplers "preview in context" function to partially replace the individual slices with others! Seriously, for anybody into loopmangling, PPro is a must have. And no, I am not working for bitshift audio. Regards, Sascha

Soren wrote: >1) Open the edit window, not the graphic window >2) Click on the instrument selection window at the top once >3) Now when you use the numerical + and - keys you select the next or >previous EXS instrument in the sample instrument folder > >This method seems to be base on Logic's convention that whenever you >have a non-graphical data field you can use the + and - keys to >change it's value after having highlighted it by clicking on it. >Beware that if you click for too long a window with all your sample >instruments open. In fact this window can be helpful too if you >didn't know it already. Perhaps on Windows, but not on Mac. The EXS24 opens in a float window and the +/- keys don't work in such a case. A Mac user may accidentally alter another value, whichever was the last one chosen. Pity...... Thanks for the info on this thread though. I've chosen to use note no's as my triggers: I just use the very top 2 keys on my controller keyboard (notes 107 & 108) as I don't generally go up that high! :-) Regards - Colin

Hendrik Jan Veenstra [mailto:h@...] : >Isn't there some confusion here as to what window we're talking >about? Open an EXS instance, and in the EXS interface, click the >Edit button left of the green display that shows the loaded >instrument's name. That opens an instrument editor, which has it's >own menu's. In one of those menu's you find the "Preferences" in >which the prev/next stuff is located. It isn't there, sorry. >If it isn't there, I seriously think something's wrong with your >install. My ZoneSwitch environment crashing on you also made me >wonder if you didn't have some sort of strange problem... I hope not... Anyway, I guess I'll upgrade to Gold 5.2/EXS soon and maybe a clean install will perform magic here. Regards, Herbert Boland

Dear list, I'm trying to figure out how to use the EXS24 in a live setup, along with a Roland Octapad. I'd like to start and stop loops, along with some single sounds. As far as I've tried, there is only the compromise between one shot OR loop. I'd need both of them combined, sort of. The manual states: "The EXS offers all You'd expect from a hardware sampler, ..." even my old e-64 can achieve what I'm trying to do. Am I missing something or is there a workaround? -- Marcus http://www.two-is-one.com "Slight not what's near through aiming at what's far." -- Euripides, Rhesus

> "The EXS offers all You'd expect from a hardware sampler, ..." That is funny. I love the EXS24, but it lacks much of what my Ensoniq ASR-10 does.

Hendrik sayed: <snip> > Isn't there some confusion here as to what window we're talking > about? Open an EXS instance, and in the EXS interface, click the > Edit button left of the green display that shows the loaded > instrument's name. That opens an instrument editor, which has it's > own menu's. In one of those menu's you find the "Preferences" in > which the prev/next stuff is located. <snip> Yeah, that does it. But in true Emagic it is a bit convoluted to figure out how to use and only provides half the flexibility one might want. I use two keys at the extreme end of my keyboard set up for the task. Why one could not simply use key strokes on the computer keyboard I do not know. Less gymnastics that way. Can one create an environment that takes two key strokes like "+" and "-" and convert them into data that the EXS would understand as patch selectors? Bob

........: You slice a loop in PPro, select all the slices, drag them onto, say, Battery or DR-008, then drag the PPro MIDI file onto your drumsampler's track and there you go, wow! After that you can use your drumsamplers "preview in context" function to partially replace the individual slices with others! Regards, Sascha ********** Hi Sascha, because you own PPro can you tell me if you can drag 'n' drop a slice from the VST open on to the Arrange Window of Logic ?? :o) to extract a wav.... thx Igor

What's the difference between PhatMatic Pro and PhatMatic Free? (Other than the $99) I was at the web site, but couldn't really get to a comparative feature list. You know, save disabled, times out, test tones, whatever... Just trying to decide if I'm ready to pop for the $99! Anybody? Thanks --- yael <yael@...> wrote: > ........: You slice a loop in PPro, select all the slices, drag them > onto, say, Battery or DR-008, then drag the PPro MIDI file onto your > drumsampler's track and there you go, wow! After that you can use your > drumsamplers "preview in context" function to partially replace the > individual slices with others! > Regards, > Sascha > > ********** > Hi Sascha, > because you own PPro can you tell me if you can drag 'n' drop a slice from > the VST open on to the Arrange Window of Logic ?? :o) to extract a wav.... > > thx > > Igor > > > > > ===="You blow in this end of the trombone, and sound comes out the other end and disrupts the cosmos." Roswell Rudd Check out the Pat Hall @ http://www.mp3.com/pathall/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

PhatFree won't let you actually slice loops. It will only let you open their "PhatLoops," some of which you can get with Computer Music magazine and I believe they are releasing a library of loops for you to purchase. The Pro version lets you slice a loop or open an Acidized loop with the slices already made. Also, the Pro version is 4-part multitimbral I believe. That's all I can remember. I've played with the Demo of the Pro version and it's very cool... -- N --- Patrick Hall <pbone3b@...> wrote: > What's the difference between PhatMatic Pro and > PhatMatic Free? > (Other than the $99) > I was at the web site, but couldn't really get to a > comparative feature list. > You know, save disabled, times out, test tones, > whatever... > Just trying to decide if I'm ready to pop for the > $99! > > Anybody? > > Thanks > > > > --- yael <yael@...> wrote: > > ........: You slice a loop in PPro, select all the > slices, drag them > > onto, say, Battery or DR-008, then drag the PPro > MIDI file onto your > > drumsampler's track and there you go, wow! After > that you can use your > > drumsamplers "preview in context" function to > partially replace the > > individual slices with others! > > Regards, > > Sascha > > > > ********** > > Hi Sascha, > > because you own PPro can you tell me if you can > drag 'n' drop a slice from > > the VST open on to the Arrange Window of Logic ?? > :o) to extract a wav.... > > > > thx > > > > Igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====> "You blow in this end of the trombone, > and sound comes out the other end and > disrupts the cosmos." > > Roswell Rudd > > Check out the Pat Hall @ http://www.mp3.com/pathall/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > http://health.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

> because you own PPro can you tell me if you can drag 'n' drop a slice from > the VST open on to the Arrange Window of Logic ?? :o) to extract a wav.... Hi Igor, Yes, you can drag slices straight to the arrange too. Actually, you can drag them anywhere if the target supports it (Explorer/Finder, other samplers, the arrange, whatever). Cheers, Sascha

can anyone give me their two cents worth of suggestions for great sample cds--for acoustic/real drums? (including loops or with groove control would be helpful). anything over the last year or two? (as i have stuff from the liquid/buring grooves and the first skippy's timeframe...) many thanks. tv

on 31/7/02 9:59 AM, tvp at aps@... wrote: > can anyone give me their two cents worth of suggestions for great sample > cds--for acoustic/real drums? (including loops or with groove control would > be helpful). anything over the last year or two? (as i have stuff from the > liquid/buring grooves and the first skippy's timeframe...) > > many thanks. > > tv > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send a blank email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@egroups.com > For a list of places to get free samples please see: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Without a doubt 1)Backbeat 2)RetroFunk 3) Stark Raving Beats. Money well spent. I would suggest NOT to buy. 1)Return To Planet Of The Breaks. 2)Chameleon Drums 3)Drum Necessities Money down the drain. My opinion only. Phil Buckle.

Thoughts from the mind of splugapass, 30-07-2002: >Hendrik sayed: > > Isn't there some confusion here as to what window we're talking >> about? Open an EXS instance, and in the EXS interface, click the >> Edit button left of the green display that shows the loaded >> instrument's name. That opens an instrument editor, which has it's >> own menu's. In one of those menu's you find the "Preferences" in > > which the prev/next stuff is located. > >[...] >Can one create an environment that takes two key strokes like "+" >and "-" and convert them into data that the EXS would understand as >patch selectors? I got several environment wishes, all competing for 1st place, and this is one of them... No, you can't use the computer keyboard at all to control anything in the environment, and that's a f'ing shame. -- Hendrik Jan Veenstra <h@...> Omega Art: http://www.ision.nl/users/h/index.html

Just came across this web site. It's got a whole bunch of online sample calculators on it. http://deepsound.net/calculs.html My old sample calc won't work on XP (tried everything) so enjoy Matt

> Hendrik Jan Veenstra [mailto:h@...] wrote: >> Isn't there some confusion here as to what window we're talking >> about? Open an EXS instance, and in the EXS interface, click the >> Edit button left of the green display that shows the loaded >> instrument's name. That opens an instrument editor, which has it's >> own menu's. In one of those menu's you find the "Preferences" in >> which the prev/next stuff is located. > > It isn't there, sorry. Same here. Logic Audio Platinum Legit 4.81, EXS24 legit PowerMac G4 dual800 In above mentioned window (Title="EXS24 instrument editor"), under its own EDIT menu, I see Preferences. It opens a window with the following options: SR Conversion Sample Storage Velocity Curve AKAI Convert thru Search samples in EXS24 TDM Mode Read key note from Key note at filename pos But nothing about program change or prev/next stuff. What am I missing? About using numerical +/- keys in any "clicked-once" non-graphical field, this works, and I didn't really remember we had this functionality in Logic. Made my day :))) Ruben

I said earlier: > It isn't there, sorry. Ruben [mailto:ruben@...] agreed: >Same here. >Logic Audio Platinum Legit 4.81, EXS24 legit >PowerMac G4 dual800 >In above mentioned window (Title="EXS24 instrument editor"), >under its own EDIT menu, I see Preferences. It opens a window with the following options: >SR Conversion >Sample Storage >Velocity Curve >AKAI Convert thru >Search samples in >EXS24 TDM Mode >Read key note from Key note at filename pos >But nothing about program change or prev/next stuff. Apart from TDM mode that is similar to what I have on Gold 481 windows. Well, there you have it, the *mistery of the EXS releases*. My guess: Logic 5 owners have a somewhat different feature set. If only someone at Emagic would tune in once in a while and clarify all this... Regards, Herbert Boland