It's interesting to note that one of the posts wanted the sounds more processed and kicking, and the other wanted it less so.....just goes to show that there are lots of different tastes out there. My philosophy is to try and give elements that can be manipulated with as much control as possible. It's always easier to "pump it up" with compression and distortion, busier parts, etc. It's much more difficult to go the other way. It's easier to make a loop sound really impressive and produced, it's harder to make something that is flexible and simpler....and still inspiring. We do work hard to provide a good balance, and I always like to get constructive feedback. Anyway, the most important aspect of Stylus is certainly what YOU can do with it and how much you can make it your own. With that in mind, I would offer our constantly expanding demos page for some great examples of how different people are using Stylus in dramatically different contexts and ways: http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/stylus_demos.html The majority of these examples are on the creative side, manipulating the instrument to make the grooves conform to what the composer wanted for there music....instead of the loop dictating what the music should be. You won't find presets in Stylus that have the exact grooves used in these demos....the artists made them their own and often created totally unique things. In fact, it would be quite difficult for me to recreate these tracks, even though I made Stylus! Hope that helps explain the possibilities with Stylus a bit more. -EP