--- In exs-users@yahoogroups.com, Nick Batzdorf <recording@...> wrote: > > I forget whether I posted this here, but a developer friend of mine > likens group buys to fishing with dynamite: sure you catch a lot of > fish, but the reef is gone forever. > > And that's exactly what we're seeing here - "Ooh, a great new > program. And I'm not going to buy it! I'm going to see if there's a > group buy so I can have it for a fraction of its value." Andrea isn't > a "market penetration" combatant, he's an extremely talented guy who > deserves to be paid for his company's extraordinary efforts. This > isn't a mass-market product, it's something only an enthusiast who > wants to advance the art would produce. > > Come on, he only wants a poxy $249 for Keymap, or an additional $130 > for everything they make! If it's not worth that, then we may as well > just forget it - we're only going to see music software development > from large companies that subsidize it to help sell other things. > (And I'm not just talking about Apple.) > > If you want Keymap - and anyone who makes their own sample libraries > probably does - then consider the money an investment in Redmatica's > software development and stop waiting for a group buy. I'm amused at the notion that we should watch out for Redmatica's economic well being. Redmatica will do exactly what it sees to be in its own self-interest, as it should. Enthusiasts (which I assume to define most in this group) are the "spreaders of the word" to more typical users, the vast majority of whom are probably unaware of Redmatica. If Redmatica sees making a group buy to potential evangelists as economically helpful to it, they'll make the deal. If their calculation is that it won't be advantageous to them, they won't. The notion that we should not ASK is just silly. None of us will be offended if they say "no". I've lost track of how many people I've told about EXSManager, but it's in the hundreds or thousands (I'm a professor). As it happens, I bought it for full price, but the few bucks Redmatica might have lost if I'd gotten it in a "group buy" would be more than offset by the very large amount of targeted free advertising they've gotten from me. I suspect this is not an unusual dynamic for many in this group, i.e., many of us are users who come into contact with less informed users of Logic.